On this episode of the podcast, voice actor David Sobolov(the voice of Rhinox/Apelinq in Transformers: Rise Of The Beasts & Blitzwing in Bumblebee) crashes game night to talk about his extensive career and what it was like bringing Beast Wars to the big screen.
[00:00:00] I want to welcome everybody to Crashing Game Night. My name is Matt DeWario, your host
[00:00:20] as always. Tonight Crashing Game Night with us is voice actor, the voice of Rhinox, Abelink
[00:00:26] and Rise of the Beast. Let's swing in, bumblebee. A tremendously long resume of a voice
[00:00:31] actor, David Sobelov.
[00:00:34] Oh, boy. Welcome. Welcome.
[00:00:39] And then insert a plus one. Yeah, right. And the beauty one, Gerard Rare.
[00:00:44] What's up nerds? That's right. David, thank you so much for joining. Can't wait to get
[00:00:50] into it and hear a couple stories and hear more about you, man. And so excited and
[00:00:55] thank you again for joining. We love obscure stories. Yeah, we don't have to stay on rails
[00:01:01] no matter what. Like, you know, the mind is just blurted out and we have fun with it.
[00:01:08] My tech career is an obscure story. Perfect. That's exactly why we wanted you on.
[00:01:15] And it wouldn't be a game night without my kids crashing the game night trying to get
[00:01:19] this switch game. But anyways, that's a baby face. One of the old one is up everybody.
[00:01:24] I've been on a hiatus. I'm sorry, but I'm getting this time. It's finally here.
[00:01:30] And then we have our Lions main. Oh,
[00:01:34] Jason's. But in the video, taking it from man, you love it. How's it going guys?
[00:01:39] How's it going tonight? Except he messed it up. I've heard it. No, no, no, no, it's
[00:01:45] not major. The services. The man the legend, the lion's main
[00:01:51] on the day's ability. There we go. Okay.
[00:01:54] I'm going to go in. That's right. Yeah.
[00:01:59] Take two.
[00:02:00] Anyways, thank you so much, David for joining us on this couch. Welcome. Welcome.
[00:02:05] I do need to get a new couch as the guys pointed out. You know, but Vegas was a little fun,
[00:02:11] a little crazy. So I'm back with clothes and we're good, we're good.
[00:02:16] So anyways, the same amount of clothes or
[00:02:22] yes, I'm a post for a second. Yeah. I lost my shirt at the table.
[00:02:29] Rick elect. So David, how are you doing tonight? I'm all good. I'm head off to
[00:02:35] Pennsylvania to Lancaster, Pennsylvania in a couple of days. Oh,
[00:02:38] they go. Is that for a
[00:02:42] convention of a very difficult time pronouncing Zen Kai Khan? I think it's called Zen Kai Khan.
[00:02:47] I don't remember that one. Me neither. What is that one about? It's about, I don't know,
[00:02:52] nerd demos on that sweet. Everything con. It's a con. It's a fun. Yeah.
[00:03:02] And Lancaster, Pennsylvania is a nice place. I only recently went there for an archery tournament,
[00:03:06] but it's also home to the largest archery supplier out there. So I'm a fan of Lancaster.
[00:03:14] Maybe they'll be at the convention. You never know. Very cool.
[00:03:17] No, no, never know. And then later on about a month from now, I'm going to C2E2 in Chicago.
[00:03:22] That's a big. Oh nice. Oh nice. Very cool.
[00:03:28] Nice. Yeah, it is Zen Kai Khan that just looked it up. Yeah, it's got some
[00:03:34] things on here. Yeah. Interesting. One big name is Mr. David Sublov, you know?
[00:03:41] Like, come on man. Well, it's like I'm interesting to those who are fans of the things that they're
[00:03:49] interested in. You know, that I'm in. So that's not everybody. But a lot of things though.
[00:03:54] But you know, a lot of things. I love running into fans of obscure things. Things I haven't thought
[00:03:59] about in years. And I have pictures for almost everything. Are those the funnest fans to meet?
[00:04:07] Are the ones that kind of bring up or obscure stuff? Yeah, like people that mentioned stuff
[00:04:12] I haven't heard of in years. So they're absolutely sort of doing that. Oh yeah. You like that? Oh great.
[00:04:18] I mean, as I was going through IMDB so we could kind of give them a snapshot which your career is
[00:04:25] long. You know? But some of the stuff that I was thinking about is like, so when a high
[00:04:31] it's mummy's alive, I remember watching that cartoon when it first came out. Love that cartoon.
[00:04:38] And where you had your first taste of Transformers was Beast Wars. Yeah, right after that. And
[00:04:46] not only were you depth charged, but you were also tele-trans one which I was telling you beforehand.
[00:04:50] I come back from, you know, I'm Gen 1. And I remember how big tele-trans was in that and just
[00:04:57] that's just awesome. Then you were Robocop. Sweet. And then you became then another taste of Transformers
[00:05:08] was the game and you were Brawl. And then you were also part of one of my favorite franchise games
[00:05:16] of all time, which is on chart at three. You were some of Marlos agents in that. Then one of the
[00:05:22] other favorite franchises of my Mass Effect, you were part of that scene when Mass Effect 3. And then
[00:05:28] since 2013, you've been the voice of Drax in the animated show and the video games including
[00:05:34] that's so awesome. Disney Infinity which is holds a survival bet. RIPD for us.
[00:05:41] All right. Because that's how we all met.
[00:05:45] Jerry, you keep it Disney Infinity love.
[00:05:47] I do live there as much as I can. I still spread love to, hey, you know what? Remember Disney Infinity?
[00:05:53] Bring it back. I like those games that have those little figures that you put on those.
[00:05:58] I still have my original. I love them. Yeah. From E3.
[00:06:03] Yeah, I feel it was it was taken too early but I understand it was just bad timing I guess.
[00:06:09] Bad timing. Yeah, definitely bad timing. But I, man, I loved it and the plans they had for other
[00:06:14] characters coming out like I was I was I was in. That was that was like one of the first things
[00:06:19] I got really heavy like into like I enjoyed it. And plus it's Disney. I'm a big Disney fan.
[00:06:25] And then Brutton Center in the center of your wall is Shockwave who you were in as well as
[00:06:32] Transformers Prime and Prime Beast Hunters. Then talking about obscure ones, you were an attack
[00:06:38] on Titan as Nicholas Lobov. Yep, that's what I was thinking about earlier. Yes. Yep.
[00:06:44] You're part of one piece.
[00:06:48] Peak Theo is interested there.
[00:06:54] And then oh my god. I don't forget. Don't forget Bumblebee. I had a couple of days.
[00:07:00] Oh, we're again there. But then the other part front and center is you've now you've also been
[00:07:05] the voice both in the games and the show of Gorilla Grod. Yeah, not in the game. Not in the game
[00:07:13] that was somebody else. I played a Dr. Feet in that game. It's justice and injustice to Dr. Feet.
[00:07:20] No, Gorilla Grod was true. But I like I liked the Dr. Feet parts where I was happy.
[00:07:25] Yep. And then talking about Bumblebee yet another transfer this time you jumped over to a
[00:07:30] Decepticon again with Blitzwing. Yep. And then we're just throwing it out. We had a good time
[00:07:35] during that. Yep. And then finally Rise of the Beast, you were Ape Link, Rhinocs and Rattrap.
[00:07:45] Not Rattrap. I was. I don't really dare you. Battle trap. Battle trap. Yeah. So when you look at it
[00:07:53] right is what made you want to go into voice acting? I wasn't thinking of voice acting. It found me.
[00:07:59] There was an agent that saw me doing his plane. She's come to come to villains. I was like
[00:08:04] 1993, 1994 and it just you know they kept encouraging me to the paycheck so I kept doing it.
[00:08:12] I enjoy it. It is pretty convincing at times. Well, I grew to love it. But I was looking for something
[00:08:17] at the time in the arts that I could make a living out. I did not want to be a starving artist. Nothing
[00:08:21] wrong with that but I didn't want to be that guy. And I had to find something where I could
[00:08:26] make a living and voice acting was it for me. I've been a fellow singer. I've been an
[00:08:32] aqua fellow singer. I toured with aqua fellow groups. Oh my god. I've been a French horn player.
[00:08:38] I played professionally in pin orchestras one time ago. Professional. Yeah. And then I ended up
[00:08:45] doing voice acting and that seemed to be what stuck. What kind of play were you doing that you
[00:08:51] got discovered while you were doing it? Yeah. Well, I was doing this was in Vancouver. I was doing a
[00:08:58] lot of stuff at the University of British Columbia. Just doing things, small things. That's where somebody
[00:09:05] saw me. So as you said, you got discovered and they first asked you to do villains which I can
[00:09:11] kind of understand the very low octave voice. And yeah, you can make it as menacing if you want.
[00:09:17] Did you ever feel like you were getting pigeonholed for those roles or was it hard to kind of
[00:09:24] transition to other stuff? There's nothing wrong with getting pigeonholed if they're going to give
[00:09:28] you a job. True, true. I just mean in regard to like if you were trying to go for other types of
[00:09:37] stuff. Did you learn that kind of you learn very quickly you're lucky to get a job at all. So
[00:09:43] if they're willing to keep hiring you for the same thing, there's always inciliatory parts. If you do
[00:09:47] a cartoon, there's always little parts on the side occasionally I get to do something that's
[00:09:52] comedic. Drax is pretty comedic. Robocop is pretty. Robocop is strange. It wasn't usually that but
[00:09:59] in our show it was, you know, if anybody ever saw Robocop Alfon Comando, it was off and on in the middle
[00:10:04] of the day when no key could see it. Yeah, there wasn't a lot going on. I heard all about this about
[00:10:09] a month ago. We did a panel at LA Comic Con for the 25th anniversary of Robocop and we discussed what
[00:10:15] went on and I heard the stuff from the producers that just curled my head, curled my hair. There's no
[00:10:19] hair left but it'd be curled down if it was on there. They said we had a commitment for two more
[00:10:25] years of Robocop from a network and MGM said no because MGM decided at the time they didn't want to
[00:10:31] produce cartoons anymore. Wow. Sad face. Yeah, that's an extra two years of work. That would have
[00:10:42] been great. Oh man. Well I ended up moving to Los Angeles after that which was a good idea at the
[00:10:47] time so it worked out fine. I actually had another question because I loved this show that you were in
[00:10:55] and I actually really love the scenes that you did. How fun was it playing Lobo and Young Justice
[00:11:02] Oh, a lot of fun. The main man. Yeah, man. I have to say that performance of yours like that took me back to
[00:11:14] kind of like the early years of the Superman adventures like I really feel like those were the two
[00:11:22] best performances because you really brought that yeah that grittyness and like that really fun
[00:11:27] rock and rollness of Lobo and yeah that I love that episode. Well thanks there's two actually
[00:11:34] there's one many years apart. That's right on the streaming version two plus also the Justice
[00:11:40] game and in the Justice game that's now a video game console game or something like console it's
[00:11:47] an arcade game at David Busters and I get cards from that thing with Lobo on it.
[00:11:53] That's cool. It's still going apparently. Yeah the very first episode I do yeah there was two but
[00:12:02] the very first one just blew me away when it went you first see Lobo and like you know you hear
[00:12:07] the main man and yeah it was such a great upset that was one of my favorites fun. Those fun times
[00:12:13] cool cool. So when we look at your your career right is what's it been like I mean because we
[00:12:20] talked about this before the show but really being a part of Transformers for so many years and so
[00:12:25] many iterations. The fans have been great I like going to those Transformers conventions because
[00:12:30] it's like a family now you know having done this for so many years and it just seems to be the right
[00:12:36] the right fit for me. I know how to play I kind of understand the franchise now at this point
[00:12:42] so when you plug me into Transformers show I can usually feel right at home and it just keeps going
[00:12:48] we'll see you know at the premiere of Rise of the Beast the director said hey I will see it
[00:12:53] the sequel and they said does he talk because you know like Reinox didn't have much to say yeah
[00:12:59] they cut out they cut out most of his lines and just some roars for me now a little bit
[00:13:04] and anyway we'll see hopefully I'll be in the sequel with more to say.
[00:13:10] So I would be okay with us getting a sequel to Rise of the Beast.
[00:13:14] Oh it's already playing so it'd be written so it denounced.
[00:13:17] All right. Yeah the way things keep getting cancelled nowadays like I won't leave it until
[00:13:22] like it's being really straight especially to see you know.
[00:13:26] Especially like you look at like Warner Brothers is
[00:13:29] brought movies complete to completion and then decided they're just going to scrap them all together
[00:13:32] it's an honor of saying a few more but yeah we're doing that for a long time
[00:13:36] that's just them saving us them saving money on taxes.
[00:13:40] Yeah it just I feel bad for all the work that everyone puts into it as actors you know both
[00:13:44] from a voice perspective and just an acting perspective that people don't get to see that work
[00:13:49] that you spent the time on. Oh no exactly it's it's it's really kind of tragic for the actors
[00:13:54] they worked so hard on it and I'll approve everybody director yeah um there's a prediction
[00:13:59] the other day that the cat the new cat and the hat movie is going to end up in the same situation but we'll
[00:14:04] see. Because Warner Brothers is doing that one? Yeah I think so.
[00:14:09] Would David Hader? I think so. I know.
[00:14:12] Or I think this isn't wait no it's not even happening.
[00:14:15] It's not um no no no um I'll pull it up yeah.
[00:14:19] I saw it's no I saw it still of who it was.
[00:14:23] Hmm I'll pull it up but you know the mask the mask um oh Jim Kerry.
[00:14:28] Jim Kerry. I believe is he is he let me uh I'll pull it up well if I look it up.
[00:14:33] I looked up here but anyway so you were telling a good story is like
[00:14:38] none of none of your appearances in transformers were because of your prior roles.
[00:14:45] No in fact usually producers had no knowledge of it um when I did
[00:14:51] whereas the beasts there was a no-modge to beast wars in there in
[00:14:55] Maximals and I was a maximal and they had no idea it was not interesting to them
[00:15:01] did not it you even come up I brought it up like halfway through the production oh that's nice
[00:15:06] they didn't care. Just happened that I was there like oh okay so we did our job right
[00:15:13] okay well I think they were I was just the right the right voice for the characters at the time
[00:15:20] you know and I was a lot of players forever oh thanks well there were a lot of complaints
[00:15:24] they didn't go back to the original gospel I kind of felt that weight from the fans I wanted to
[00:15:29] do good I wanted to be good by the fans I wanted to do the best job I can which I always try to do
[00:15:35] but I was really thinking of the fans a lot when I was doing that show because I realized
[00:15:38] that was the only but only person in there from the original franchise lucky to even be there
[00:15:44] there's no plan to have anybody from the original franchise there and the fact that I was there
[00:15:48] even opportunity hopefully I mean you happy I hope I did I think it did did my best I loved it
[00:15:57] I loved rising the beast but almost but transformers junky and even the last night as kind of bad
[00:16:04] in some ways that it is I still I still loved it I'm a little bit a little bit a part of my
[00:16:09] critical but I have to say I left wanting more and that's the it's it sucks hearing that you had
[00:16:16] more dialogue because I really wanted to hear more from Ryan Oax and Cheatour like I mean we had
[00:16:23] like almost the original team you know you know and uh from the from the animated show we were just
[00:16:29] missing Rattrap and I was really yeah I was really hoping to hear a lot more from the rest of you
[00:16:35] guys and and you know here's some some of you know the classic Ryan Oax you know banter and stuff but
[00:16:43] yeah yeah we're just hopefully more in this equal so yeah I'm super excited not been called yet
[00:16:50] we'll see if I am and if I were I couldn't tell you anyway true or what we asked yeah unfortunately
[00:16:55] we'll be hoping we'll be hoping and praying yeah and it's Bill Hader the I was just
[00:17:01] getting ready to say that okay I did Bill Hader um I have a very very very loose old connection with
[00:17:07] Bill Hader I was making up a concept for a comedy sketch show um the improv in Hollywood with a friend
[00:17:14] and we hired him to host at this and four years famous and oh yeah oh sweet
[00:17:20] to so end a one night only performance but he no one knew he was he was a nice guy oh sweet
[00:17:28] yeah Talon's it did yeah so what's been your favorite character to voice so far
[00:17:34] when anyone asked me that I used to say I love all my children equally but that's kind of a
[00:17:38] lame answer so I don't say that anymore there's like five things this really like five things
[00:17:44] I like the best I think it would be going all the way back depth charge was a special character
[00:17:49] you know there was a 40-minute audition there's a 40-minute audition wow we were layering it together
[00:17:54] we were developing the character in the audition um back in the day robo cop was pretty cool because
[00:18:01] it was my first big role so that meant a lot to me um guerrilla grot on the flash we discussed
[00:18:08] yet that's that was a big one especially yeah the show was great there's a good name Jeff Garrett
[00:18:14] who was my producer on the flash and they made sure they didn't have to do this but they took a lot
[00:18:19] of care they made sure that he was my director for all nine years all anytime I appeared there
[00:18:24] wow or in the tomorrow oh you did the legend tomorrow stuff which has become kind of viral now
[00:18:30] that's the scene with Obama but if anybody you know that but he goes back in time and attacks Obama
[00:18:35] in his college dorm room and he goes let's let's make America grow again oh man so that was pretty
[00:18:43] funny but yeah so we had the same director so that was special to me because we really we really
[00:18:48] changed his intelligence level slowly on purpose throughout the nine years and just every year
[00:18:53] was getting a little smarter little smarter um it was just really helpful to have the same director
[00:18:59] there with me the whole time I always like the amount of emotion and pain that you put into
[00:19:05] grotto like you could definitely feel for him while he while he is getting smarter and through
[00:19:11] everything but you can also feel like he's going through this turmoil at the same time like he's
[00:19:17] confused as to what's going on with himself but he's still trying to do better for his kind in all
[00:19:23] this it really came out really well and you did such a fantastic job thanks we worked really hard
[00:19:29] on that you didn't want to be silly and he could have easily been silly and it was really all
[00:19:34] mostly other cast members that really helped me to not make that silly because they could have
[00:19:39] they could have easily just made it look stupid but they took it seriously yeah that was great
[00:19:44] and then in the more recent stuff of course um you know I really like that part we I played about
[00:19:50] in um in bubble B that was a lot of fun because they made up a whole backstory that wasn't
[00:19:58] in the movie so that he had more mojo going on and I think that worked pretty well
[00:20:03] just sometimes I have to do that you know like with grotto I added sadness that was unnecessarily
[00:20:07] there with that kind of made sense to me and villains don't know their villains it is doing the
[00:20:13] best they can yeah I think they think they would they're doing is right and I need to use the
[00:20:20] board there's a there's a seeing out there that I've kind of heard uh um I find kind of interesting
[00:20:26] that like both heroes and villains do things for love but super heroes will sacrifice their
[00:20:34] love for everybody else villains will sacrifice everyone else for their love
[00:20:40] that's a good way to put it that's very true yeah I like that yeah very joker
[00:20:50] and then you know and I think Drax was also kind of cool for me you know that was a really solid show
[00:20:55] if you more people are seeing it too a Disney plus now which is nice it's still there
[00:20:59] that's kind of the story yeah it's a good show I've watched it too
[00:21:03] so when you do you want to get Marvel I know I'm Marvel obviously talking right never
[00:21:10] I yeah tell us I'm more DC anyways um so when you go to these conventions right and you are
[00:21:19] meeting those people for the first time have any of you know any of those fans shared like those
[00:21:24] personal moments on what your character's a meant to their life that ever really kind of like
[00:21:29] touched you there's always one in every convention where you have to go away from it and take a second
[00:21:35] um I have a fan who can't hear and she was from the flash and she told me that Guerrilla
[00:21:42] Grade was the only character she could actually sense or hear because she would put the speakers
[00:21:47] on the floor and lie on the floor and listen to him wow that's very cool and when she came up to me
[00:21:55] at the convention she put her hand in my chest and I did the part and she recognized that's a
[00:22:00] oh that's cool that was cool that's that's a good one that's like that yeah that's one of my favorite
[00:22:08] stories there's a lot of sad stories too people who um it was this one moment in Texas which just
[00:22:14] broke my heart she just said you don't know how crappy some of our lives are and you help us
[00:22:18] forget it for half an hour I was hard to hear sorry but if I could break I could bring happy
[00:22:26] to anyone in any form that's great yeah um yeah and if I can somehow inspire people to realize
[00:22:33] that there are things that they can do in their lives to make their lives better that's important
[00:22:37] to even though he's a villain mostly um and I often get that now with the the parents will bring
[00:22:43] their kids and want me to do a character that I've played and give them an inspirational speech
[00:22:49] about you know motivating them to do something with their lives just strange you would think that oh
[00:22:56] it kind of reminds me of a story from Robocop because it's not just a cartoon to a lot of people this
[00:23:01] is very important to them this fandom stuff is extremely important um the yeah represents something
[00:23:07] in their life who sparks something that may meant something to them personally yeah the actor wants
[00:23:12] in Robocop but I'm the lead you know I'm not going to my head it was one of the first things
[00:23:16] ever data was thrilled to be there but he came in that there was the episode where Robocop's parents
[00:23:21] showed up his family showed up and they thought he was dead he knew that he knew that it was them
[00:23:27] who he couldn't he couldn't reveal himself so I took a little extra time not 10 takes per line
[00:23:33] but a little extra time and he said David it's just an effing cartoon he didn't want to see he was
[00:23:40] like I was holding them up I guess I didn't really wasn't holding him up but I was taking a little more
[00:23:44] than one take and said Jim Jim it's got my effing name on it that's fair no no I want I want to do good work
[00:23:54] yeah I mean like I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna leave the studio till it's good yeah all the time with
[00:23:59] especially like we've been saying with like I've been saying previously as well like a lot of
[00:24:04] the voice actors that we've had before and now with either gaming or animation like we all grew up
[00:24:12] in that era where you resonate with those good or bad guys where you're just like oh this is
[00:24:19] our cartoon that I watched and this was like yep this was I raced home to get from school to watch
[00:24:26] the cartoon after school and you're like oh man like I'm ready for it and you're like oh my god
[00:24:32] this is what happened and you talk with your friends like oh do you see that you know like
[00:24:35] that childhoodness or that like mentality of everybody getting together and like you said
[00:24:41] this is a lot of people that are listening to this that is your voice it's it resonates and you're
[00:24:49] just like oh man like I like would Matt being way back with the Transformers and so and Beast Wars
[00:24:58] you know it's the same with me like like for you like you for me did Diablo 3
[00:25:05] asmode and and it was like that one that game alone me and my friends would play
[00:25:13] hours on end and we'd laugh because we're like okay because we always played hardcore and one of the
[00:25:19] nights we're fighting asmode and I was like dead tired but I'm just like sitting at the
[00:25:27] computer my friends are on the on the ears like on the mics and they're like why are you just standing
[00:25:34] there why are you standing there and like apparently I had died but I had passed out and just fell asleep
[00:25:39] like at the computer they started buzzing up laughing took screenshots it's like gave me a call
[00:25:46] and they're like dude you just died because you're just like knocked out asleep and we're just like
[00:25:53] oh my god but I mean like it's it's one of the franchises that you have and like you know it's
[00:25:59] it's it's cool hearing everything when you guys put all the effort into it like as a voice actor
[00:26:05] it's so nice so nice. Nothing wrong about taking pride in what you're doing. Oh yeah
[00:26:10] everybody's feeling busy about being scolded from from other people who don't take pride in it
[00:26:15] I mean everyone at their jobs if they do a great job I respect doesn't matter what their job is
[00:26:20] I produce occasion I produce films I've directed little films here and there are live action stuff
[00:26:26] and the guy picking up the garbage says as much respect for me I do I have as much respect for him
[00:26:32] as the guy that's shooting this film because everybody has their part and everybody's just trying to
[00:26:36] get through the day you gotta be nice to people so as a Dan he there's a secret lost video of
[00:26:42] Asma Dan that I've been dying to find if anybody out there finds it please post it. There was an
[00:26:47] anniversary of Blizzard internally and they hired me to do Asma Dan as a disgruntled employee
[00:26:58] and this was an internal video that did it Blizzard I was never shown to me and I never got
[00:27:02] to see it so if anyone has that can you post it? That sounds funny. Yeah that I would love to
[00:27:10] hear that. Yeah I'd like to hear that that'd be funny. Oh so also like when you look at your
[00:27:19] your cast rate you look at the different franchises we've talked about like the flash and
[00:27:23] transformers you're also part of Star Trek. Yeah you know there's a new thing that just happened
[00:27:30] I found out there's a funcopop for the Gorn and I was the new Gorn in Star Trek Enterprise and
[00:27:36] there was a little arc called Inamiri Darkly and it went back to the original original bridge of
[00:27:41] the Enterprise and I was the Gorn and it's the only time in the whole history of Star Trek that
[00:27:46] Gorn ever speaks and I now have a funcopop that I saw in conventions whoever wants it for those
[00:27:55] Star Trek completists out there so finally the convention of having a Gorn talk with me.
[00:28:01] And what's funny is I know the episode you're talking about because I love Enterprise.
[00:28:08] I mean I'm a Star Trek junkie and whatnot myself and it was like when we talk about like
[00:28:15] conventions right it's I got to meet Jonathan Freaks at Fan Expo Denver which for the listeners
[00:28:25] we've talked about it for this Commander Riker like he's been which is sad is discovery is
[00:28:29] going to be the first Star Trek series he's not a part of at the end of the shelf.
[00:28:36] They've already come out and said he's they've said no but you know there's still room to surprise
[00:28:42] everybody you know and keep it on wraps but like season three of the card like it came along this year
[00:28:51] when I needed it because I was feeling a lot of grief with my mom's passing there was something
[00:28:55] next generation was something we used to watch as a kid and stuff but Enterprise came along for me
[00:29:02] when I was going through a dark point with you know my divorce and it was like it means a lot
[00:29:09] and I just I know the exact episode you're talking about in the mirror darkly it was like
[00:29:13] and the Gorn and in your right it's like the Gorn doesn't talk you know and here it is and it's just
[00:29:21] and that's why I think you guys deserve more credit than you guys are given voice actors
[00:29:27] and actors because you guys do impact people's lives in in such a profound way a lot of times
[00:29:34] you guys don't realize it and I don't know until I go to the thank you mentions that I find out
[00:29:42] and I think that's I think that's sad I think actors deserve way more credit than they get um
[00:29:47] you know and it's so when when you look at those does
[00:29:54] when you look at what projects you're you're a part of
[00:29:59] has there been the one fandom that's really touched you the most
[00:30:03] in terms of the stories and what you've done to impact their lives?
[00:30:08] Well I think I have a long relationship with Transformers so that one
[00:30:12] you know that's meant meant something to people also one piece is a huge impact on people
[00:30:19] and I think they were really expecting the worst from Kido strangely enough for some reason
[00:30:25] but I think I made them feel like I and I cared about the franchise so
[00:30:31] with we see when you even it's more than just doing a good job on the part
[00:30:35] they know I think that they're a much bigger part of the show than I am
[00:30:40] the fans know so much more than all I ever know about the shows that I'm in
[00:30:44] really and anime you know it's not something I'm familiar with
[00:30:48] I hadn't even auditioned for an anime rule in 26 years until Kido
[00:30:53] wow and I somehow got it all it's pretty amazing that that came along
[00:30:57] wow through my agency and through CESD and then and then
[00:31:02] so you see the Los Angeles some Sam Frishman is a really big one anime and he's
[00:31:08] believed in it but it's not something agency has been traditionally did for Western animation
[00:31:12] because you know just it's not a high-paying part of the profession
[00:31:17] conventions help out but the actual performance is not your normal situation you would have
[00:31:22] a Western animation or film or TV but he realized there was a lot there and I'm really glad
[00:31:29] that you did because it was so cool to be part of that and Kido's English
[00:31:33] part is still going on for another month or so another month or two
[00:31:38] and then it's done for now we'll see if he comes back Kido can't die his character
[00:31:43] and it was really shown in the very first episode he was in but he doesn't die so I think
[00:31:47] he's coming back sweet
[00:31:50] when when you look at stuff like that right is there is there a project that you've you really
[00:31:59] love going back to the most I mean you talked about like one piece and what not but of all the
[00:32:03] projects you know if you could go even if you could go back to it like which is that project
[00:32:08] that you would love to go back and redo there's a show called Kai called Kai Judo
[00:32:12] that was on the hub in 2012 almost nobody has seen it it was one of the best shows that
[00:32:17] ever done it was a great part sort of a big blustery creature with a heart of gold
[00:32:24] and we did two seasons 26 each so we did 42 episodes
[00:32:29] what was the show about it was it was dual masters it was magic to gather it was like there it
[00:32:36] was their show it was a show well well it's magic to gather it was a Kai Judo had its own card
[00:32:42] series and this was wizards of the coasts was it of the coast and who owns wizards of the coast
[00:32:48] is it Hasbro Hasbro yeah yeah it's them now it's them they were trying to do a TV series version
[00:32:54] I've ever didn't really work I think it worked creatively but it was on the hub the hub was a small
[00:32:59] little thing they created from Hasbro and they were very arrogant about it at times like we're
[00:33:04] going to be the number one kids network in here like no you know you're not and they only went for
[00:33:11] like two or three years and then they were gone but they were a great bunch of people to work with
[00:33:15] Margaret Loche who ran Fox Kids was hired as their last big gig before she retired to do the hub
[00:33:23] and they really tried okay it was only in the masters yeah it was only in half the station half
[00:33:29] the markets in the country had the hub so that we didn't have an attraction our transformers prime
[00:33:34] was on that yeah and great cast yeah it was a great cast and for those real quick that when
[00:33:46] they hear Margaret Loche and not familiar with it she's responsible for X-Men
[00:33:53] yep and Julia and Eric were friends we ran into each other years later they worked on Robocop
[00:34:02] yep I was a huge fan of them and they were so happy we had them on the podcast about a year ago
[00:34:10] now at that time well they got to first meet them at San Diego Comic Con and yeah
[00:34:16] yeah we got X-Men 97 now so that's the news yeah yeah coming out we were we were at the panel when
[00:34:21] they were showing a little sneak peek in Comic Con and then it just so happened they were like
[00:34:27] literally one row rows from us yeah maybe two rows behind us or something and I had to say hi
[00:34:33] to them and just express like X-Men for me was it was my first comic it was my first real like cartoon
[00:34:41] I just absolutely had to see every like every episode and yeah X-Men really resonated with me so
[00:34:48] it was it was great to talk to them and get to know they're the sweetest people in the world
[00:34:52] yeah super nice people a lot of people in my industry are nice kind grateful that we get to do this
[00:35:03] I'm lucky there's a lot of people to get to do this
[00:35:07] it's very awesome dig yeah I know how lucky I am and get and get asked back for more
[00:35:13] exactly yeah somehow somehow so David as far as what you've got on the table right now
[00:35:24] do you have anything going on outside of just your voice acting well a lot of you mentioned
[00:35:29] um I created a show called Captain Fingers it's a comedy animated show kind of a
[00:35:36] adult swim kind of thing so I'm gonna be out there soon pitching that and trying to sell that
[00:35:41] to a network nice it was pretty awesome I was my pandemic project so I had time to work on that
[00:35:49] and it took four years to finish it so I've got a pilot kind of an animatic but it's a rough pilot
[00:35:55] to show and we'll see what happens and lots of people let's create people in it is there
[00:35:59] if we know a little bit about it or I can't say too much but it's okay it's just a very strange
[00:36:05] alternate view of alternate universe where everyone's at the pre-morphic
[00:36:11] oh okay very cool and the reasons Captain Fingers is that the lead guy is a hand with legs
[00:36:23] a lot of yeah a lot of questions are very cool yeah already kind of see the comedy there yeah
[00:36:30] this is a lot of weirdness that goes on his dad is some just legs and he had just been
[00:36:37] of the middle part and he runs a gym called leg bay
[00:36:45] so we love that I love it there's um there's a villain named mini bliance
[00:36:51] mini bliance yeah it's kind of it's kind of a drag name but I put it for
[00:36:57] mid-this character into our mini bliance and she's just an evil agent
[00:37:04] that's awesome yeah and there's then there's someone even more evil in New York that wants to go
[00:37:09] after uh is it act he's an actor Captain Fingers and he wants to go after Captain Fingers to get back
[00:37:15] at mini bliance because they had a relationship years ago since last going on oh very cool it's fun
[00:37:21] yeah I can see it I can kind of I can tell you the comedy there there's a scene in the middle of the show
[00:37:29] where they're at a fan convention and it's called anthropocon there you go so it's silly
[00:37:37] it's my brain is silly there you go I like that yeah see what happens and then are you still doing
[00:37:44] coaching too yeah lots of coaching lots of demos for actors
[00:37:50] I kind of try to teach people that you have to find the reality and the stuff
[00:37:56] even if it's a big wacky crazy character I have to believe that you inhabit the world of
[00:38:00] that character right don't care about that world okay okay that's fair that's kind of my thing
[00:38:06] and I just like to finish yeah I studied with a guy named Sanford Meisterner with
[00:38:09] active school in New York to neighbor at playhouse and that is not somebody that would usually
[00:38:14] be trying to you know foster a voice actor but that's what I ended up as and I get to apply this
[00:38:21] very advanced acting training to voice acting so that's what I do when I train I take that
[00:38:26] Meister technique and adapt it for voice acting wow that's impressive how much did how much did
[00:38:33] theater benefit your voice acting career I've done about 30 plays back in the day when I was in my
[00:38:40] 20s I worked for around about theater it's a Broadway company now it was off-broadway then and
[00:38:45] and they produced a lot of new plays so just working on new material was great so that helped me a lot
[00:38:51] if you're gonna do voice acting you gotta do big things you gotta be bigger than life it's much easier
[00:38:55] for director to make you smaller to make you bigger if you're timid if you're timid it's not a good
[00:39:01] thing for voice acting also something might as well used to say there are no ladies or gentlemen
[00:39:07] in a theater it's kind of an old timey phrase but meaning you can't be polite and play these roles
[00:39:13] you have to go for it you know the villains have to be mean and one of my biggest challenges
[00:39:18] teaching is when you get a really nice guy who's trying to play villains and to show him what being
[00:39:23] mean is about is not easy sometimes for people missper yeah I mean I have to like you
[00:39:30] embrace the character and get people to understand the characters so you can't really be a villain
[00:39:36] that's timid because like I mean we all kind of picture villains to be those take charge those
[00:39:44] that really go after what they're want regardless of what other people think anything like that
[00:39:48] and it's kind of hard to do that with being a little timid just gonna be like oh okay you said
[00:39:53] no to me alright I'm going back off well look at Thanos he walks in a room he takes the room he
[00:39:59] doesn't have to do anything and that's the best feeling I mean if you're strong enough that you just
[00:40:03] walk in the room and say if you work just command the room yeah exactly yeah exactly
[00:40:11] totally at the point of grounds yeah when if you were to give a piece of advice right to anybody that's
[00:40:16] looking at it you know getting into you know voice acting would that probably be one of your biggest
[00:40:22] things is probably is to start out in theater start out in improv do you improv is because good
[00:40:28] because it gives you sense of play um you got to learn how to act I mean you can jump in and try
[00:40:34] to do funny voices but it's not that's not the job people think that's a job 80% of people
[00:40:39] that get into it think that's how it's done I've been a lot of celebrities doing this and they
[00:40:43] they're like flops what after the first act like David how do I do this because they don't have
[00:40:48] their bodies anymore there are their faces anymore doesn't matter how cute they are doesn't help them
[00:40:54] they have to be well you have to make it an on camera performance in your mind you have to see
[00:40:59] everything that's happening if I'm talking to you now I'm talking to you because I'm talking to
[00:41:03] people there's people here interacting with me but if I'm reading a script if it's just if there's
[00:41:07] nobody in your mind that you're talking to it just sounds like words it's dry it's slow it's
[00:41:12] drab yeah yeah like you said you really have to sell it and it's the feeling behind it
[00:41:18] just like those yeah exactly and many times you will not have any texture to help you
[00:41:24] oh okay that's that's the crazy thing for yeah the producer that kind of like sets the scene a little
[00:41:30] bit by yeah by words I heard it's possible you're very lucky to get like footage before to give
[00:41:36] you like a reference or even like a drawing of but most of it is like description and like okay this
[00:41:42] is the world like here it is yeah and in Marvel we would do the fights and then we'd go back
[00:41:48] and redo them once they animated they would animate to us but there's no one's any adjustments I did
[00:41:53] not know that yeah I mean the fights were described and we would you know fight the fight as was
[00:41:58] described but then of course they'd have to make it real so a pre-lay animation it's called it's
[00:42:04] what we did for our Guardians of the Galaxy and we didn't have any reference except you know
[00:42:09] we had drawings of our characters that was it was all in our minds and we were lucky and it was
[00:42:14] the same room okay so that's where I was going to ask if you were even in the same room because that's
[00:42:21] got to be really hard yeah not even be near each other or even have the same time with the non-sombo cast
[00:42:27] like that you kind of want to be able to like be there for reference or or like especially like
[00:42:34] in sequence like a team you're a team so beat off of each other exactly understand understand
[00:42:39] where things are coming from I don't think it happens much anymore you know I haven't done a cartoon
[00:42:44] series lately but since the pandemic I've rarely gone in films you have to go in because you're
[00:42:50] standing in front of a screen it's almost as big as an iMac screen sometimes but these are
[00:42:55] 80 R stages they're called automated dialogue replacement stages so I'll go down a paramount
[00:43:00] to the lot and into their post-production facility and you can't really do that at home
[00:43:06] you won't be good enough you have to get that feeling of just the feeling of the room that you have
[00:43:12] and they might you weigh above you like so like you're on set oh wow okay yeah there's like a normally
[00:43:20] like doing animation there's like a you 87 uh an omen but with these they'll do a shotgun like
[00:43:26] way like literally like six feet above you oh wow I don't even know how they do it but it's such
[00:43:32] it's such a directional mic it just catches you right where you are wow that's exactly where you're
[00:43:38] and you don't even have to look up at the likes it catches you anyway it makes it work for the film
[00:43:43] technology cool early well it's also the magic of the guys the guys the women and the women
[00:43:50] and behind the glass the engineers yeah because they really know what they're doing so David if you could
[00:43:56] play one character just your dream character who would it be and why well we saw in person bad men
[00:44:06] yes that's a good one i want you i want you in suit for that well not in suit but i bro you can do
[00:44:15] those days are done but um the uh the character can be so complex and so so many layers in that
[00:44:25] character i don't know if i'm ever gonna you get a chance to do it but occasionally i get i probably
[00:44:29] had six or seven auditions for bad men in america have not ever come all of us trying you know
[00:44:37] the nice thing with bad men too and you can't get too old but my voice doesn't sound 60 or 70 yet
[00:44:42] so i'll keep going for a while and see where where it ages it's gonna be interesting because i'm almost
[00:44:47] 60 they need to bring back bad men beyond and you can play old Bruce there you go but i'm not really
[00:44:53] sure how my voice is gonna be very intriguing to see how my voice will age in the next 20 years
[00:44:59] so let's hear the iconic line when i'm bad man i'm i'm the nice what's gonna be what's
[00:45:06] you i want to do i'm bad man i am bad man oh yes oh yeah it's good it's good i like that when you look
[00:45:21] at when go ahead i do the steep bloom thing where i do this so you can when you do this and if
[00:45:27] if the engineer can handle what some people get really angry when i do this but if you do this
[00:45:32] you can hear every nuance of what you're doing so sometimes you need that why do the engineers get
[00:45:38] upset because the reflex back at the microphone and we sometimes sometimes if it's not mic
[00:45:44] properly it'll mess up their sound okay so you know if they know what they're doing it does bother
[00:45:49] but some of them are not really experienced enough to do it so when you look at it on the tech a little
[00:45:53] too much you know you look at doing the auditions for bad men right how does it feel kind of trying
[00:46:00] to step into the shoes at Kevin Conroy i don't step i can't step it you can't step into his shoes
[00:46:07] he's one of a kind you get it back in your own back making your own you you find you find you
[00:46:12] look at the character you never look at the actor that came before you unless they tell you do that
[00:46:17] like well i've done up several marvel and DC characters now where i'm playing an iconic character
[00:46:22] i can't use the old character for reference that's not what the new producers want and i'll
[00:46:27] also just gonna be a copy a bad copy i can't do what Kevin did and i'm so honored to work with him
[00:46:32] i was right next to him well he was playing bad men we did there was a guerrilla grot thing where
[00:46:37] he was a silly guerrilla grot can't remember the name of the show like justice league action or something
[00:46:43] like that oh okay okay it was something something funny fairly recent and
[00:46:49] it was such a thrill to have him right next to me he was the nicest guy in the world too this breaks my
[00:46:55] heart that he's not with us anymore but um i know i will never if i ever get to play bad man i will not
[00:47:01] be replacing it i'll be trying my own things and letting his ladies be just this just this league
[00:47:10] action it was on from 16 18 okay i did two episodes of that as grot yeah but it was it it's
[00:47:19] funny i played grot several times i did scene park in in the australia and every time i did grot
[00:47:24] in different um media it was a different grot they wanted a different balance oh yeah
[00:47:32] more comedic more more youthful like more more ment toward marketing to little kids
[00:47:37] and just yeah i'm sure towards kids yeah never understand that yeah tv shows
[00:47:43] very cool for years i was trying to see a grot appear in the movie but i don't think you did
[00:47:49] i don't think you did appear in the movie i don't think there's gonna be another movie
[00:47:52] i don't i don't think so we'll see what happens yeah with the new uh uh you know head in
[00:48:00] in the near direction we'll see and and you know the new superman movie is looking
[00:48:05] uh pretty promising and uh yeah i'm pretty i'm i'm excited for it
[00:48:10] awesome would you go back as grot if they asked you back for sure in a minute yeah absolutely
[00:48:16] there's very little i wouldn't go back as uh unless the producers were really difficult to work with
[00:48:21] i'm really at that point in my life where it's like you know i want to work with people that are fun to
[00:48:25] work with and then there are some people that i don't work with anymore but very few 95% of everyone
[00:48:32] have ever worked with i would want to go back to be with but you have the grot of the awesome i'd
[00:48:36] love to keep doing that that'd be a lot of fun hopefully maybe some mocap uh work on that and that
[00:48:42] be sweet you never know um they could use the assets that they have it would make it cheaper
[00:48:49] grot episodes on the fresh for 50% more expensive than any other episode wow really
[00:48:56] cuz think about it they move usually some of the dark there was a reason yeah true cheaper
[00:49:02] all right you gotta sell the detail the hair details a lot of money
[00:49:05] especially his first episode oh dang i didn't know that i didn't think of that either and that
[00:49:10] show was not done on a performance capture stage performance capture for television is too expensive
[00:49:15] it could be a hundred and fifty thousand dollars a day on a motion capture
[00:49:19] why are they aren't they aren't gonna do that on tv show yeah but they had many many really talented
[00:49:27] visual effects people that work behind the scenes and there was somebody who was a standing on set
[00:49:33] on stills it was like seven feet tall and he was really great at performing
[00:49:39] grot and they would have him on the set i was supposed to go to set it was allowed to go to
[00:49:44] center if i ever wanted to it was in Vancouver and i was in LA and i and i missed a lot when we did
[00:49:48] the last grot i was ready to go and i didn't get the timing right and i asked them a two weeks late
[00:49:54] and they forgot to tell me and i missed it oh no i was gonna say if i could have gone
[00:49:58] somewhere i missed it and i've only ever met Daniel panorbaek or Evan but then you got the other
[00:50:06] cast it oh really okay well hopefully in the future and uh yeah we'll be praying you can
[00:50:13] you can reprise the role like hopefully in a movie and i i'm a big fan of the mocap uh
[00:50:22] like creation and anytime i can see like a behind the scenes of it it's very interesting to me on how
[00:50:27] it's all captured and done and hopefully you get you know the opportunity to practice on it and
[00:50:32] get that too yeah i got to do i've done one role in a video game army of two double skirt
[00:50:38] tell where i was i loved i loved army of two man that was awesome yeah i was really cool game
[00:50:45] i was reals in the second game you real man yeah yeah i was sweet i was all like lean and jack back then
[00:50:53] and then we had a lot of fun because being on cam was super cool i'll get to do some fun games
[00:51:01] yeah i played i played uh both two of them i played one and two you know when they they had
[00:51:07] that particular game marketing decided they would kill off a couple of the main characters or one
[00:51:11] of the main characters salim and rio's right they're gonna kill salim right the public got wind of it
[00:51:17] we had to fix it no that cost them probably a million dollars to fix it
[00:51:26] dang dang dude and the way it works is it was before like twitter and all of that before
[00:51:32] you know that really took off so to get leaks out like that was big that's a big thing yeah
[00:51:38] but once the public fan i'd be like no you ain't doing this to us but it isn't the big
[00:51:44] flop anyway sadly i enjoyed those games though those those were like just straight up fun
[00:51:51] the it was a cool game those are cool games yeah i got to do it yeah i was jealous of
[00:51:57] those masks too i always wanted to kind of like make those masks as well those are fun
[00:52:02] well the thing is that we we talked about some of different projects and that's the fun stuff
[00:52:06] that comes up and thank you mentioned projects i haven't even thought about in years there's
[00:52:10] somebody's an enormous fan i ran into an army three devils cartel i have maybe met three fans
[00:52:15] about in the last five years oh that's god dimensions but when i meet one they're very excited because
[00:52:22] this is unusual for them yeah that's so cool so david as we head to that uh the top of the hour
[00:52:33] one of the things we like to ask all of our guests um is that when you are able to get together with
[00:52:39] friends and family and like have like a night together and stuff like that what is your favorite
[00:52:43] game to play with them whether it's a card game board game whatever it is what is that favorite
[00:52:48] game to play with like a game night with those family and friends um i like traditional cards sometimes
[00:52:56] you know just old timey card games this is fun um not a huge game player but years ago when people
[00:53:03] had the patience for i used to like board games you know like we spend like we spend the whole weekend
[00:53:09] playing wrist oh nice okay okay a lot of fun nice uh most people i know don't know the patience
[00:53:16] for it anymore but i would still do it i was locked in a cabin in a snowstorm every fun for
[00:53:20] you know so there you go yeah my friends and i was in that long we had ours was access and allies
[00:53:28] um which was pretty much risk on crack um yeah and steroids i'm gonna be that one
[00:53:35] access and allies uh it's the world it takes work during world war um it's kind of like the cousin
[00:53:41] risk but it's on a much grander scale you're one of you're either England Russia um Japan the US
[00:53:51] and Germany so basically it's literally the access powers versus the allied powers and you've got
[00:53:58] aircraft carriers fighter jets like you have more than just uh that's what we get about our
[00:54:04] new attack different country that's like uh but we do we can see like yeah start out Friday night
[00:54:12] order some pizza sweet funny quick story before we go here about three games i've been in
[00:54:19] an almost over 90 video games now um back in the day i i'm old enough that there weren't
[00:54:26] no video games when i was a kid and the earliest games that i remember were like centipede
[00:54:32] space invaders we're all enough for that you even pawn i remember when pawn came up
[00:54:38] and i remember thinking how stupidly boring it was
[00:54:43] but it was because we were all we were all playing pinball so i mean that was a lot more exciting
[00:54:48] sure yeah and the better moving then pawn so so now when they do promotion for video games
[00:54:52] and they want me on camera i have to get to shoot me from like the the shoulders up because they
[00:54:56] can't see the stuff i'm doing with the console i mean with the um controller because i don't know how
[00:55:01] to use it i never i never learned how to play video games like i've got to get somebody to teach me
[00:55:07] someday but um they're fun to watch us and i'm seeing the clips it's never too late man the the best
[00:55:13] pinball machine ever made was called scared stuff oh i'll find that find that in an arcade someday
[00:55:20] you'll have a good time it's sort of a alvira the alvira is no poorer based thing there you go
[00:55:25] oh okay they didn't have the alvira pinball machine i remember that one i remember a lot i play a lot
[00:55:30] but uh i played the terminator one a lot yeah the terminator pinball mine was attacked from Mars
[00:55:38] that's a good one that was good cool cool i do have one additional question before we start
[00:55:46] wrapping up for you um this question i didn't like to ask is there a particular piece of advice
[00:55:53] that you've received regardless of it being about voice acting acting life school whatever
[00:56:00] that you received that helped drive you to be who you are um you have to not let the people
[00:56:07] that are trying to drive you down or ruin your your hopes and aspirations i put it this way i say
[00:56:14] don't let anyone squish your dreams because they're gonna try there's a lot of people in this
[00:56:19] life sometimes it's very very it'll be determined to put you in the place that they want you to be in
[00:56:25] but you know you've got to be who you are first class from the past for you there it is
[00:56:31] it's good step oh sweet there they're alvira's there too there's alvira yeah oh look there's a
[00:56:37] transformer pinball machine oh sweet oh sweet oh it's funny oh and come right next to it uh
[00:56:44] the problem with scared stiff is it was such a great game it was so complex it would break down all
[00:56:48] the time no way there always out of service because it's too there's too much going on
[00:56:55] that's funny so if that makes sense i mean people out there like you might have something you want to
[00:57:00] do with your life keep doing it because you only got one shot at this so make it happen
[00:57:07] that's good i like that thank you so david definitely appreciate you taking the time
[00:57:13] yes and hand with me a lot of our i it's looking at the time i was like i can't believe it's
[00:57:18] already an hour but that's just how things go usually when we have you know voice actors on over time
[00:57:23] about your careers and stuff um for those ed um our catch on the show on our youtube or on
[00:57:29] the podcast if you head on over to crashing dane mat dot com go to contributors and guests
[00:57:34] david's got a profile already built there um we'll have this an episode link to it once we get it
[00:57:40] recorded this week uh and up but there's links on how to find us him on social media and his website
[00:57:47] as well nice um yeah so uh this first time you catch on thank you for crashing game night with us
[00:57:55] hopefully we gave you that little bit of a distraction um you know kind of like what david's talking
[00:58:00] about earlier you know i we like that we give you a distraction from the day to day grind and hopefully
[00:58:06] we gave you a little bit of laughs and some trip sound memory lane um for those that grew up with
[00:58:11] you know hearing david's characters um but as always guys just please be excellent to each other
[00:58:18] that's right all you nerds uh thank you everyone for listening and david thank you so much for
[00:58:24] everything and and thank you for joining uh had a blast and love the stories uh and please
[00:58:30] you're welcome anytime come crash anytime please you have an open invitation of course
[00:58:36] and uh yes we want to promote the same message as we always do um let's just try and promote a little
[00:58:43] bit more patience maybe have a little bit more compassion uh let's just try and uh you know
[00:58:50] lend a helping hand let's just try and do and be a little better out there it's still a little crazy
[00:58:56] so yeah let's just try and be better and uh everyone be safe out there
[00:59:01] jay bom no uh again anytime this couch might be a different couch day but uh you'll be always
[00:59:09] welcome on this couch anytime just head up mad hit us up let us know we're going down but uh again
[00:59:17] thank you so much for being on for us with us tonight david you know hopefully uh we get to hear
[00:59:22] you in more and more uh different projects in the future you know like obviously we don't end
[00:59:28] EA so but in the future hopefully you get to hear you more often um yeah just like jay said it's
[00:59:34] it's crazy out there let's be a little bit nicer let's be a kind like we're a third or
[00:59:40] we're the fourth we're a fourth of the way through the year you know congratulations guys yeah we did
[00:59:45] it uh oh yeah um yeah and you know what i have nothing to say because right now i'm just excited
[00:59:56] to get satisfied oh no it's also sad he's excited because he has to do one thing really quick
[01:00:02] yeah four things we've just been on while like there was something missing in my life you know
[01:00:10] for the last almost month and i was like oh i wonder what it was and now i know here we go guys my man
[01:00:18] my man deal wasky then it's out like how you don't know what i will not these guys how you do
[01:00:26] david thank you again so much we hope you have a great time out in Lancaster for Zinc i con
[01:00:32] those out there make sure you go visit his booth have some fun with him we've been having a ton of
[01:00:37] fun with you tonight we hope to have it again but to our watchers and listeners ttfn
[01:00:42] for now get ahead everybody bye bye i'll explore guys